What passes for sex “education” in evangelical churches

[Update: both the video and the Jesus Needs New PR post have since been deleted.]

In case anyone thought I was exaggerating, this is a representative and very classy (sarcasm alert) example of what I heard about premarital sex growing up.

h/t Jesus Needs New PR.

10 Comments

  1. That guy is absolutely terrifying.

  2. Propaganda = Education, at least in the minds of some demented fools.

    • Propaganda is a good word for it, for sure. Re: demented, I try to be careful about using that kind of language to describe people I disagree with, since some people who live with mental illness or have mentally ill loved ones find it hurtful.

  3. 11.5% teenager girls get pregnant… How can nobody see the problem in reporting this statistics? Teenager girls get pregnant because they don’t receive appropriate sexual education! They are in fact the problem! Lying about sex and sexual practices is, in this context, shameful; but risking the future and the lives of teenagers because of their own fears and prejudices is immoral! It should be illegal! The fact that they don’t tell students that you can, in fact, have pre-marital sex with no consequences, that pregnancy is avoidable (and thus abortion is not an issue), and STDs are avoidable as well, at this point goes beyond wrong. People do have sex, married or not, because it is natural, enjoyable, and a way for humans to establish social relations! They did it, they know it, and there is nothing wrong about it. Just another prove of how you can use statistics in so many different ways, including distorting the mind of young people and risking their lives…

    • I really wonder how it’s legal to teach such things – especially given that programs like this are often funded by federal and local governments. It’s mind-boggling. I believe in free speech and freedom of religion, but I don’t think that should extend to teaching kids deliberate, outrageous lies.

      It’s obvious that their actual goals are not to prevent teen pregnancy, contracting STDs, or abortions. If they were they’d be promoting comprehensive sex ed and acknowledge the reality that 95% of American adults – virtually everyone! – has had or will have premarital sex.

  4. That was funny the way a 10-car pile-up on the interstate is funny. You may get a cheap giggle at the expense of strangers, then feel like you have to take a shower when you remember someone’s life has been lost or ruined because of it.

    I wonder how many professional abstinence advocates truly, sincerely believe the crap they are spewing? I don’t think all of them do, but all of them know church youth groups and schools are cash cows because they have a pre-indoctrinated teen audience ready to listen to any vaguely “hip” pablum they can spew out, and nod along in agreement so they feel important.

    • Yea, it’s funny and awful.

      I think there are a lot of different motivations and beliefs in the abstinence advocacy movement. Some of them really believe it because it’s what they were raised with, too (though that doesn’t mean they actually practiced it, many don’t). For some it’s all about fear, knowing what they were up to as teenagers and young adults and being terrified by the thought of kids getting into the same kind of stuff. It’s totally hypocritical, of course, but I can kind of understand it. And I definitely think there are some who know exactly what they’re doing and are cynically exploiting churches and schools. And dictating sexuality is an incredibly powerful tool for controlling people in general – I mean, think about how much power parents and pastors have over children simply by making them feel like shit for masturbating alone, much less all the other romantic or sexual activities they could be getting into.

  5. thefrogprincess says:

    And here again, we find one of my many issues with the scare tactics of abstinence-only talk. If you believe that God’s calling you to be abstinent until marriage, that belief should hold up even if having sex before marriage is tons of fun and doesn’t involve “pussing sores.” This is so disingenuous: the “reality” is that if you have sex before marriage, you’ll automatically get an STD or HIV or get pregnant, etc.??? Since when? Oh wait, when you’re completely ignorant about how to protect yourself, these things are more likely.

    Also, once again marriage is being propped up as the automatically safe space that it just isn’t, leaving folks once again open to whatever a lying partner could be bringing home.

    • If you believe that God’s calling you to be abstinent until marriage, that belief should hold up even if having sex before marriage is tons of fun and doesn’t involve “pussing sores.”

      Absolutely. If your ideas are so true, or so much better, why do you have to lie to get people to accept them? Shouldn’t they be able to stand on their own merits?

      Also, once again marriage is being propped up as the automatically safe space that it just isn’t, leaving folks once again open to whatever a lying partner could be bringing home.

      Yes. This teaching lulls people into a false sense of safety, which is so dangerous. It’s astounding to think about how naive I was about what marriage meant, and I had been exposed to much more diverse ideas and groups of people than most of my fellow church kids.